Uusi konsepti Geneveen 2006

Saabin konseptit ja tulevaisuuden suuntaukset.
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Kuulostaa omituiselta tuo väite vapaasti hengittävästä V6:sta! Opel/Vauxhall-serkussa varmaan, mutta tuskin Saabissa! Mutta taas yksi vahvistus siis siihen suuntaan, että pohjalevy tulee olemaan sama kuin tulevassa Astrassa.
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Taitaa autoexpress olla vähän niinkuin automaailman tabloid, välillä osuu mutta huteja ja copypastea loput.
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thecarconnection:

"Meanwhile, Saab hopes to improve its buzz with the launch of an edgy new concept vehicle at the Geneva Motor Show in the spring. Referred to internally as the "Jet on Wheels," it will emphasize the Swedish marque' aerospace heritage - and is meant to suggest plans to give the brand a more distinctive design theme."
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http://www.isaab.net/nyhet.php?id=269

"Vi har fått information från vad vi anser vara säkra källor, att Saab kommer visa upp både en Saab Sonett och en Saab Crossover Hybrid på motormässan i Genevé i mars"
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http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a ... 16015/1041

Saab is likely to have a crossover vehicle soon, says Jay Spenchian, Saab's general manager.

"We continue to evaluate that segment, and things look very favorable," he says.

Spenchian says future Saab vehicles will have more aggressive design and performance to correspond with the brand's heritage and its marketing pitch, "Born from Jets."

The 9-5 is a bridge product that will be successful for Saab over the next three to four years, he says. But Saab wants to move to the prestige luxury segment.

Says Spenchian: "If you look at the competitors that are in there, they're stellar - and I think we need to take it up a notch with the next generation, and we intend to do that."
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http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/archives/20 ... vey_1.html

One of the things that GM would like to better understand is the level of enthusiasm for rear-wheel drive versus front-wheel drive, particularly for young buyers of compact and sub-compact cars. Our belief is that front-wheel drive cars can be very rewarding to drive if properly set up. We also like the interior packaging space advantages, low mass and poor-weather traction of front-drive vehicles.

At Saab, there is a long and storied tradition of fast, reliable rally cars. These cars fed significant power through the front wheels and yet remained stable and entertaining to drive, which proved particularly important in long-distance races.
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TuuSaR kirjoitti:http://fastlane.gmblogs.com/archives/20 ... vey_1.html

One of the things that GM would like to better understand is the level of enthusiasm for rear-wheel drive versus front-wheel drive, particularly for young buyers of compact and sub-compact cars. Our belief is that front-wheel drive cars can be very rewarding to drive if properly set up. We also like the interior packaging space advantages, low mass and poor-weather traction of front-drive vehicles.

At Saab, there is a long and storied tradition of fast, reliable rally cars. These cars fed significant power through the front wheels and yet remained stable and entertaining to drive, which proved particularly important in long-distance races.
Tuon tekstin kirjoittajalle ei voi sanoa muuta kuin "right on man!!!" 8)
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NG9-3CV 1.9TiD 7/2007
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Tämmöinen lainaus isaab-sivustolla. Teksti vihjaa siihen suuntaan, että Genevessä esitettävä konsepti ei olisi varsinaisesti ollenkaan tulossa tuotantoon. No aika pian luulisi tulevan jotain virallistakin materiaalia aiheesta, messuthan alkavat jo toinen päivä maaliskuuta:

Geneva Preview: More Details Uncovered on Saab Sports Concept
Date posted: 02-03-2006

DETROIT — With the Geneva Motor Show less than a month away, Saab insiders have begun to leak additional details about the concept sports car that will be unveiled on March 1.

Described as a two-passenger coupe about the size of the Aston Martin DB9, the Saab two-door — which may or may not revive the old Sonett badge — is said to be a pure concept. Contrary to widespread speculation, it is not based on any existing General Motors platform and, unfortunately for Saab aficionados, there appear to be no immediate plans for production.

However, Saab executives say the concept is significant because it points the way to the brand's future family design theme, or "form vocabulary," which is being developed at GM's European studios under the direction of design boss Bryan Nesbitt (of PT Cruiser and HHR fame).

What this means to you: Saab's next concept may not reach production, but it will provide a strong clue as to the brand's future styling direction
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Heittelevät vähän jäitä hattuun mikä on ihan viisasta, sillä vaikka päätös rakentamisesta tehtäisiin heti, kestäisi varmaan 3-4 vuotta ennenkuin malli olisi markkinoilla.(ja sekin hidastaisi muita tulevia Saab malleja, joista osa on todella kriittisiä)

Todellakin halutaan välttää tämä Camaro tyyppinen hype jota seurasi superpettymys kun kuullaan montako vuotta tuotantoon saaminen kestää.
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No niin: maanantaina helmikuun 27. päivänä klo. 16:30 paikallista aikaa GM pitää lehdistötilaisuuden Genevessä eli silloin viimeistään saamme tietää, mitä uutta on tulossa. Ja jotain siis on, koska nyt jo luvataan, että:

GM will be presenting:

4 World Premieres
Saab World Premiere
Opel GT
Chevrolet Captiva
Chevrolet Epica

3 European Premieres
Cadillac Escalade
Saab 9-5 Aero BioPower Concept
Chevrolet Tahoe Two-mode Hybrid
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Tätä sivua sitten kyttäillen.

http://media.gmeurope.geneva2006.achtg. ... s_saab.php

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Ja voi keijo sentään, kaikki kuvat on nyt noillakin sivuilla passujen takana. Huomasin tämän ilmiön aika äskettäin USA:n eri autoshow micro-sivuilla ja arvelin, että se on vain niille tullut uusi tapa mutta se onkin nyt GM:n virallinen linja.
Eli jos haluan nähdä kuvan tarvin siihen esim. jonkun autosivuston joka ehkä hyvää hyvyyttään julkaisee 2-4 kuvaa 40:sta. ja nekin hyvin pienenä :roll:
Viimeksi muokannut TuuSaR, To Helmi 09, 2006 18:12. Yhteensä muokattu 1 kertaa.
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TuuSaR kirjoitti:Tätä sivua sitten kyttäillen.

http://media.gmeurope.geneva2006.achtg. ... s_saab.php
Aivan... Luulisin tosin, että jotain pulpahtaa julkisuuteen jo jotain muuta kautta ennen tuota virallista esittelypäivää!
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Trollhattansaab sivua ylläpitävälle Saab fanaatikolle on joku vuotanut että konsepti on nimeltään Aero X

The Concept Car Saab Aero-X is going to be a real highlight. With the unveiling of the spectacular sportscar at the Geneva show, the following key values from Saab will be shown:

-Saab's unique heritage as plane constructor

-A clear design tradition with Scandinavian roots

-progress and innovation

Niin ja X on tarkoittanut tähän mennessä kaikissa Saabin tuotanto ja konseptimalleissa nelivetoa, eli arvuuttelu vetotavasta luultavasti loppui tähän.
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Niin ja moottori on jonkun pressin mukaan 400heppanen tuplaturbo V6, joka kulkee E85:llä.
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Joo. Tuo TrollhattanSaab-mies on uskomaton pakkaus varsinkin, kun ottaa huomioon, että äijä asustaa Tasmaniassa!!! Mutta tällä hetkellä hänen sivustonsa on parhaita Saab-tietolähteitä koko netissä!

Mutta isaabistakin löytyy aina jotakin. Tämä lienee Tuukan viittauksessa mainittu lehdistötiedote, joka varsinaisesti koskee BioPower-konseptia, mutta siinä mainitaan Aero-X :kin!

Ja onhan tuossa nyt samantien kaikki, mitä kenraali uusista polttoaineista Gebevessä kehuu ymmärtävänsä!

http://media.gm.com/servlet/GatewayServ ... ocid=23048

2006-02-10

Alternative Fuels: Why Saving Money Can Be Pro-Environmental

Saab, Opel/Vauxhall and Chevrolet models operating on bioethanol, natural gas and LPG

Geneva. In addition to the on-going optimization of gasoline and diesel engine concepts in terms of fuel consumption and environmental compatibility, GM engineers focus on research and development of propulsion concepts for alternative fuels. General Motors is one of the world's leading manufacturers of vehicles that can run on the biofuel E 85. Today there are 1.5 million of these GM "FlexFuel" models in the USA, and by the end of 2006, this number will reach almost 2 million. As the market for alternative fuel vehicles is strongly affected by infrastructure, the different GM brands offer country-specific models, such as the Saab 9-5 BioPower (ethanol), the Opel Zafira 1.6 CNG (natural gas), and a range of Chevrolet models (LPG). Not only do these vehicles conserve valuable crude oil resources, they are also easy on car drivers' budgets.

Powerful yet clean: Saab BioPower models running on bioethanol

With the world premiere of the Saab Aero X and the European debut of the Saab 9-5 BioPower the Scandinavian brand shows two concept cars which are powered by the eco-friendly renewable energy source bioethanol. While the Aero X The car has a 400-hp Bio-Power twin-turbocharged engine the Saab 9-5 BioPower Concept is driven by a turbo powerplant with a displacement of 2.3 liters. It delivers a higher maximum performance by almost 20 percent (310 hpvs. 260 hp) and a 25 percent more powerful torque (440 Nm vs. 350 Nm) than its gasoline equivalent as well as significantly reduced CO2 emissions.

Saab already leads the European premium car segment offering a BioPower model in its home market of Sweden that is fueled by bioethanol, an eco-friendly renewable energy source. The Saab 9-5 BioPower is not only kinder to the environment, it also produces more power than its gasoline equivalent (180 hp compared with 150 hp) because bioethanol has a much higher octane rating (104 RON) than gasoline, making it ideally suited to turbocharged engines.

The new Saab 9-5 2.0t BioPower is not only very pro-environmental; it is also very practical, because it runs on any mixture of bioethanol and gasoline without intervention from the driver. Bioethanol fuel is produced commercially from agricultural crops and forest residues. Unlike gasoline, its combustion does not raise atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide (CO2), the 'greenhouse' gas that contributes to global warming. In Sweden, bioethanol is currently blended (85% bioethanol / 15% gasoline) and sold as E85.

The Saab 9-5 2.0t BioPower engine running on E85 delivers 180 hp and 280 Nm of torque, compared to 150 hp and 240 Nm with gasoline - a significant 20 per cent increase in maximum power and a 16 per cent increase in torque over the standard model. This makes for a much sportier performance: zero to 100 km/h is accomplished in just 8.5 seconds.

The high performance Saab Trionic engine management system senses the mix of E85 and gasoline in the tank and adjusts the engine timings accordingly. The only hardware modifications necessary are more durable valves and valve seats, and the use of bioethanol-compatible materials in the fuel system, including the tank, pump, lines and connectors.

Filling up for half price: the Opel Zafira CNG and Combo CNG natural gas-fueled models

Natural gas market leader Opel has presented the new Zafira 1.6 CNG (Compressed Natural Gas), the latest version of Germany's most popular natural gas-powered vehicle in autumn last year at the Frankfurt “IAA” Motor Show. A total of 20,000 units of its predecessor model were produced. Available since May 2005 is the Opel Combo 1.6 CNG. These new CNG models share a common feature in the intelligent underfloor placement of the natural gas tanks, which ensures that the CNG versions offer the same, generous interior space and the same versatility as the gasoline and diesel engine models.

Thanks to the innovative monovalentplus concept, both cars have been designed specifically to run on natural gas, biogas, or a mixture of both. The engine technology features special pistons, valve and valve seat inserts, separate injection systems for natural gas and gasoline, and an engine management system optimized for natural gas. A 14-liter reserve gasoline tank is fitted, which allows the driver to switch to gasoline to extend the range of the vehicle. Indeed, when the main tank runs low, the system automatically switches to gasoline, although a manual switch is also provided.

A particular strength of the CNG models is their superior economy – with fuel costs approximately 30 percent lower than the diesel versions (or 50 percent less than the equivalent gasoline engines) – and their environmental compatibility. By virtue of its design, this method of propulsion produces 75 percent less carbon monoxide, 80 percent less nitrogen oxide and hydrocarbons, and around 30 percent less CO2. What is more, the exhaust gases contain no soot particles.

Economical and non-polluting: the LPG models from Chevrolet

From the compact Kalos to the practical Tacuma/Rezzo minivan, many Chevrolet models are available in Belgium, Germany, France, Italy and the Netherlands that will run on LPG as well as gasoline (LPG – Liquefied Petroleum Gas). LPG is an environmentally friendly solution, since it contains virtually no sulfur and its combustion produces far fewer exhaust emissions and soot particles.

The LPG tank holds between 47 and 60 liters, depending on the model, and is located in the vehicle's spare wheel compartment. The size of the trunk is therefore not affected and no modification to the gasoline tank is needed. It is not only the environment that benefits from the use of LPG; high-mileage drivers enjoy considerably lower fuel costs, since throughout Europe LPG costs much less than other fuels. The main reason for this is the lower duty on LPG.

CONTACT(S):

Johan Willems
Director, Product Development &
Technology Communications,
General Motors Europe
Tel.: +49 6142 760243
johan.willems@de.gm.com
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